Title & End Shots: Guidelines

First of all I think it's good that there are some guidance about this...up till now I almost did it like this automaticly, but sometimes I also let my feelings judge about the end shot. (when it was not clear, I always thought what would look best as an end shot and then upload it).

What to do in such a case for example:

There is already the same shot uploaded in the FF with the same background as the Cast and Crew one would have:

Now since the movie has no end still, no 2nd title, no "directed by" etc. I would have to upload the cast and crew one with the same background like the shot above (mine is just in a better quality)

So if I upload this, there would be almost 2 identical shots in the archive...just 1 with the cast and one without, which was uploaded before already by another user.

So from my feeling I thought there shouldn't be almost two identical shots in the archive, so I uploaded this one instead:

It's also from the closing credits but with some other picture to make it more diverse.

Would this be allowed or would I have to replace it with the cast and crew one?

The shot you uploaded is OK by me, BUT the other one would have been OK too.
There will be shots similarities between some Archive shots and some End Title shots. But that's OK, as long as the End Title shot was not an Archive shot that has been assigned.

The whole purpose of this rule is to give a chance for more shots through NS/FF.

Good thing to have some guidelines.

About the replacing .. will the right to replace your own title shots be granted to everybody or just the people who have sufficient WTM bucks to replace shots in general?

If you don't have enough bucks for replacing a shot yourself, contact a mod.
When you're ready to upload the new shot, we will delete the previous one.

There is a movie with original title in spanish.
But i have DVD release in which title at the beginning is in english.
Can i upload a title shot from this movie?

nope, it should be in the original title ;)

Another problem. For some movies the tittle shot is on two separate shots. How doing it ??

Thanks for answer :)

@RDPL55

I'd say: choose the most meaningful word(s).

i dont get why 3) "Directed by..." is prefered by 4) "And they lived happily ever after" or any text of that kind..
i think 'they lived happily ever after' is more special and more like a 'The End' shot than just 'Directed by..'

I completely agree with toffetomas on that one.

I know I'm a bit off-topic, but I don't want to open a new thread for my question.

is there any rule or limitation about character shots? I noticed that sometimes several shots are uploaded for the same character, so I have 2 remarks about that.

First, I think this is quite useless to have 10 shots of the same character, IMO theses shots should only be uploaded to show what the character looks like, and we don't need to have a picture of every scene in which he/she appears.

Second, I think these shots should be as "boring" as possible. Sometimes these characters shots come from specific scenes and could be uploaded as regular shots. 2 examples I found recently:
http://whatthemovie.com/shot/142082
http://whatthemovie.com/shot/188186

What do you think??

Yeah, we need to think of some guidelines for those too.
So far, the only guidelines are:

• same rules as usual +
• only one character clearly visible on the shot
• face must be visible (for "uploaded as character shot" shots)

We'll discuss this in an upcoming Staff meeting.

BTW, I deleted the 2nd shot, the character's face couldn't be seen.

Plus we'll discuss the suggestion made by both toffetomas and fungus on the title shot guidelines.

Personally I do not agree with a limitation of shots per character, for several reasons:

1) The Message on the starting page of WTM says: "We don´t try to bring you all the features of Rotten Tomatoes or the IMDb. You won´t see fancy actor pages, movie trivia or the latest news. Instead, we focus on the Movies and their Characters themselves."

If you focus on the characters themselves and advertise with it on the starting page, then the idea from my understanding should be to bring some kind of variety of shots and different scenes from all the characters, not just 1 or 2 boring shots in the character section and that's it.

2) If we are honest there are still way too few users who regularly upload in the character section. So why put a limitation to these users...

3) In my opinion there are already way too many simple character shots in the NS right now. Don't get me wrong, I also upload a character shot sometimes when I feel it is worth uploading, but very often such shots are just boring to see in the NS. From my personal taste shots like this have nothing lost in the FF section: http://whatthemovie.com/shot/189522 (No offense against the uploader of course, especially that he is still new and it was probably right to accept one of his shots to give him some motivation to continue uploading). But a limitation to the character section could only lead to an increase of uploaded character shots in the NS...and that's something I wouldn't like to see.

4) What if a character is liked very much by the community and let's say 10 people would want to upload their character shots for this certain character. If there is a limitation to only a few shots not everyone could do it.

5) If you say it is "useless to have 10 shots of the same character" and several different scenes they appear in, why would you want to see them be uploaded in the NS section? At the end it would be the same if the shots make it to the archive...just that in the character section they are all together and you get something like an overview for these characters there.

So if there is really a need for a limitation of character shots (at the moment I don't really see why) it should be something like at least 5 shots per character per user. This would be something like a compromise which everyone could live with probably.
But actually as long as the shots aren't completely dupes I wouldn't have a problem if there is no limitation at all and everyone should be able to upload what he wants into the character section as long as he stick to the rules of course.

To toffetomas & fungus point I agree, even this would mean that some new uploaded "directed by"-shots would have to be replaced again.

Reminder: List with the top 100 movies without title shots http://whatthemovie.com/page/titles

Hello.
I messed up with "Dnevnoy dozor"
I uploaded "Title Still"


Then i wanted to upload end "The End Still" and saw this: http://whatthemovie.com/shot/75905
Yes. I know. I Fucked Up.
Please delete my "Title Still" and reassign Pinokio1983 shot from "The End Still" to "Title Still", then I upload "The End Still".

Thanks and sorry for trouble.

Orca and The Ghost and the Darkness are done!

les valseuses is done

Babe done