Too picky?
Dear Moderators,
I'd like to ask (not state) whether it is plausible that you're sometimes too picky in approving movies...
From a couple of movies (like Festen, the famous Dogma film), all my shots have been disapproved under the 'bad quality' terms.
However, some movies simply are not made in the quality that DVD's can offer, but are famous, recognized easily by enough people
and definitely sharper than several movies that -did- make it into the database.
Apart from this, from a couple of movies, I took the most famous moment, with enough action or unique events for a film,
and they're rejected with "boring", while there is no more easily recognizable moment or no more spectacular moment in the
film with enough quality to upload. The film Zebraman has been denied multiple times like this.
I'd like to know, what the reasons are in a bit more satisfying answer than given in the simple mail i received.
Is it because the movies are not known to you, and therefore less appealing?
Is it because the number of movies uploaded and offered is so big, you've chosen to just select the best of the offered ones?
Anything?
From my point of view, I could not have done better with a couple of movies... and in all cases, they're taken from the original
DVD too.
I can imagine several reasoning, but would like to know...
From my point of view, it was really unnecessary to disapprove certain shots I uploaded.
I can understand a couple of others I posted, but enough of what I uploaded seems more valuable to me than ones that made it...
Kind regards
HAL9000
Hi HAL9000,
You can believe me, it's a quite difficult task to approve or disapprove movies.
We mostly have to decide on movies, we haven't seen before, which makes recognizing
"the famous moment" quite hard.
If you write us an E-Mail with a list of the films you think were rejected
out of no reason, we'll have a second look and/or tell you a detailed disapprove reason.
You are kind of right with the fact, that we are bit picky at the moment, because people
complained about the huge number of movies every day ...
Looking forward to your mail :)
Great move, HAL9000!
I uploaded a key moment of a very famous movie a week ago. It was disapproved. E-mails were not sent yet, so I don't know the reason. Anyhow, I will try to upload it again at a later time... ;)
I uploaded a key scene from another big movie a few weeks ago where we see the image of a video film. It's bad quality. But it's supposed to be bad quality. I think that it was disapproved because of just that... :-/
On the other hand, it's a bummer when I see that a lot of TV movies, movies recorded from TV (with the channel logo superimposed), and duplicate pictures are all accepted... ;)
It would be great if we could add a short comment for the moderators when we upload a still. It would be possible to describe why we think this is a key scene or why the picture quality is bad. Maybe this would help in approving the still... ;)
I've upped 2 shots I admitted a few days ago under http://testing.gingapura.de/#0
both of them were rejected as "boring".
sorry for "boring" you. :-/
I'll write the mail later this morning, thanks for your response.
I can imagine moderating all submitted movies is both time consuming as sometimes confusing.
Confusing in the sense that only very little time is taken to judge all the available stills and therefore
little or less appropriate response could occur.
Although it was a complaint, the nature of your choice was what I was looking for more than getting my
stills approved after all. (of course, in a couple of cases, this would be appreciated :P)
Thanks :)
HAL9000
I think you should never disapprove a still just because there are too many uploads. Because this selection is bound to happen completely arbitrarily. And that's simply not fair to the uploaders who spent a lot of time finding nice stills.
Instead you should improve your workflow to avoid duplicates. There's another one that went online a few hours ago.
I suggest you present the thumbnails of all the stills of the movie to be evaluated to the moderators. Use the IMDb-Tag an a unique key for filtering. A quick look at these pictures will help you identifying a potential duplicate.
Oh oh... Uploaders are rebelling against the almighty power and wisdom of the failproof moderators.
All mutineers should be banned, their screenshots should be burned on the public place and their Internet connection removed.
Let them serve as examples !
Anyway, more seriously, it's really hard to decide which shots should be accepted and which should not. We have already discussed a few times about how to judge quality of screenshots precisely because all movies don't have the same quality of image. The problem is that if we haven't seen the movie (or don't remember it well enough) it's hard to judge if the screenshot is well chosen or not (and believe me, some are not well chosen, even when knowing the movie).
Also, because of the huge number of submissions I admit that I tend to enter a "disapprove" frenzy and be very harsh when moderating (in which case "bad quality" serves as a good excuse).
However, most of the time, when I don't know the movie enough to decide whether or not the screenshot is representative, I don't vote at all. But if we all do this and no one has voted on a given screenshot when the queue time is over, the screenshot is disapproved (I think, well at least it should be).
And yes, the features you mention are already present and we try to use them to avoid duplicated, although one might have slipped through...
Just realized that it was not a duplicate after all. Sorry about that. ;)
Looking forward to the comment textbox in the upload form! :)
Happy snowboarding, naut! :)
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Oh oh... Uploaders are rebelling against the almighty power and wisdom of the failproof moderators.
All mutineers should be banned, their screenshots should be burned on the public place and their Internet connection removed.
Let them serve as examples ![/Quote]
thanks for make me laugh so hard ! ;D
Ok, today we have TWO duplicate stills.
I won't tell which ones because this would help other solvers. ;)
But I will send an e-mail to quiz@whatthemovie.com.
No, they're not identical. But they're from the same scene and this is clearly identifiable.
Dear moderators,
How comes that #9435 was accepted? The picture quality is painfully bad. And you can even see why: there's a YouTube logo on the bottom right!!!
Are you even looking at what you're judging?
:-/
Oh, I see, my bad, sorry. :)
(and of course I know the movie - note to self: analyze the content BEFORE analyzing the picture quality ;)
thanks for the mail biglewbowski.
Today I was finally able to check my mails again. Damn provider.
The "duplicate" of this one http://whatthemovie.com/beta/movies/view/9018 is kinda funny :)
And the other one was a mistake. our bad.